Interview by Tempi magazine of Italy

Today I was interviewed by an Italian journalist and I thought you might like to read both his questions and my answers (in bold):

1. I was particularly struck by learning that, joining the Ordinariate, any former Anglican priest gives up a yearly salary of around 20,000 £. Of course this choice economically damages his family - and it can be said to be an extreme choice in your case, considering your nine children. Did the perspective of the loss of such salary somewhat affect or delay your choice to move towards Catholicism? Of course, as a brave man of faith, you will be confident in God's help; but, more humanly, were not you worried about money when you took this decision?
The overall context in which I made my decision to become Catholic was to discern God's call. It has been a journey of placing myself more fully into the hands of our loving Father. The words of our Lord in the gospel come alive in these circumstances, for example, in Luke 11 Jesus says, "What father among you, if your son asks for fish will instead give a serpent..." So when one puts oneself into the Father's hands one has to trust that He will indeed care for you. But you are right that from a human perspective one does worry, especially when one has lots of dependent children. We were given assurances that the Catholic church would look after us and we would not be left destitute. So after praying and testing one's sense of calling, I just had to say, "Right, over to you God." In the event lots of people have been generous to us. The biggest difficulty for a Catholic bishop is housing such a large family. Many modern presbyteries are not designed for families and especially not families of eleven! But that is beginning to be sorted out thanks to the kindness of our local Bishop. I would also say that I am blessed with a wife of great faith. She is a cradle Catholic and she has said quite simply, if it is God's will, then He will provide.

2. Was there any particular reason - an episode, a person you met, some reading, a critical thought - which proved crucial in driving you towards Catholicism?
I wouldn't use the word "driven", generally I don't think the Holy Spirit drives us, it seems to me more to do with attraction. I have been attracted to the Catholic faith increasingly over the last decade. As I have been wrestling with some of the big issues of our day I have gradually come to see the truth in what the Catholic Church teaches. A big influence has been Pope Benedict, both his example and especially his writing. I feel very at home under this great teacher and pastor. But I also think we have come to the time when as Christians we must unite and work together for the evangelisation of the world. I really do not think we can do it as seperated Christians. So when the holy father published the Apostolic Constitution creating a way for us Anglicans to become full members of the Catholic Church, yet retain some of our good traditions, I felt I needed to be part of that. And Blessed John Paul's vision for the new evangelisation of the western world is also very exciting to me.

3. The great innovation of the Anglicanorum Coetibus is to allow entire groups to join Catholicism simultaneously. In my view, the choice of becoming a priest of the Ordinariate becomes thus not only an individual act of courage but, even more, the attempt to work hard to create around oneself a community of faithfuls. I was therefore curious about whether your daily "job" has changed from when you were an Anglican, to what extent and in which actual features.
Of course it is early days, but so far it has been a great time of renewal in our faith both for me and all the members of the faithful who followed me into the Ordinariate. It is a great privilege that people trust you enough to follow you even when they do not fully understand all the implications or theology of what they are doing. Really we are still finding out what it is to be in the Ordinariate, and for all of us it has been very much like a sabbatical so far. We have done a lot more studying together, and exploring the Faith much more deeply than before. We have been helped in this by our local Benedictine Abbey community, especially the Abbot, who has tried to address all our questions and problems, and most importantly he has made us feel very welcome. So day to day it is presently very different as I don't have the same responsibilities. I feel much more focused on the mission of the church to share the faith, and we are making plans to help others enter the Ordinariate. At the moment I have a small group of faithful to care for so that is not so hard. Although I will soon be helping the Catholic diocese too, so my workload will increase.

4. I appreciated that Mgr Burnham insisted that joining the Ordinariate is not a conversion in the strict sense of such word, as both Anglicans and Catholics are indeed Christians. I have been living in Britain for more than two years and I noticed that the greatest religious divide in this country lies between people who live on the basis of the existence of God and a vast majority of people who behave as if the thought of God did never even cross their mind. Would you think that the small but remarkable amount of Anglicans moving towards Catholicism are somewhat trying to find a more authentic faith to oppose to the total lack of faith of such majority? And would you believe that the conversion of Britain - from a vastly unbelieving country to a majority of people who have a full sense of God - could be better achieved through Catholicism than through the Church of England?
Yes I believe that is right. In order to dialogue with the modern culture of England we have to be sure what the Faith is we are promoting. The problem with many of the protestant churches is that answers to questions can vary from church to church depending on the vicar or pastor you ask. This prevents Christians from giving a clear witness to the world. So it has been a great relief to enter the Catholic Church and know we all sign up to a corporate faith - we can say, "This is what the Church teaches." It is only then that we can develop good apologetics, ways of explaining our faith, to the world in which we live. And I think Blessed John Henry Newman had the vision that all the laity of the church needed to have a good grasp of the Catholic Faith, not just the clergy. So in the Ordinariate we are committed to especially developing a very informed laity who are ready "to always have a reason for the hope that is in us", as St Peter put it in his letter.

Sixth Sunday of Easter

If you love me you will keep my commandments.Jn 14:15

St Paul writes, "The mystery of Jesus Christ...is now disclosed...to all nations, according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedience of faith." (Rom 16:25-26)

It can take time to get over the word "obedience". For a long time I found our Lord's pairing of love and keep my commandments a very difficult thing. I was reluctant to give up my autonomy. I was of course far too wrapped up in myself and had far too high an opinion of my abilities. Why should I give up control to be odedient? At this point I am sure those of my father's generation would say something like, what we need is to bring back 'national service'. Men of his generation were drafted into the armed services for some years after the second world war. I imagine they learnt obedience quickly. For many of us it takes much longer, and in today's modern world 'obedience' is a dirty word so perhaps we should not be surprised if it is ignored.

In our gospel today our Lord directs us to the connection between love and obedience, and it is clear that this is no sentimental notion of love. It is not love that is about feelings; about how I am. It is rather love that conquers death because of obedience unto death. This is the love referred to in our opening hymn at the Abbey's mass today:
Love's redeeming work is done;
fought the fight, the battle won:
Lo, our Sun's eclipse is o'er!
Lo, he sets in blood no more!

What I struggled with over obedience was not just a dislike of obedience, but an underlying erroneous understanding of who I was. I had a vain optimism about human character. I did not believe I was fallen. I did not believe I needed redeeming. I did not need to give up my autonomy, my independant and self-centred life. Outwardly I worshipped Christ each Sunday at church, but inwardly I really didn't believe I needed a Saviour.

We all need to get over ourselves, and embrace obedience in the ordinary events of life. We need to do this because in persevering in humble obedience we discipline our disorderly desires that would take us from our risen Saviour. These fallen desires draw us from the obedience of faith in God, to the self. Obedience is how we say "yes" to Love's redeeming work, and "no" to self-centredness.

This obedience is lived out in all sorts of ways. It begins with our attending to the Word of God, especially at mass, and how this is applied to us through our parish priest's homily and counsel, and the particular circumstances of life in which we live. We place our trust in God's providence every time we act obediently. And if we do not pull back when it becomes costly, our obedience unites us with Christ 'who became obedient unto death'.

Despite what we might fear, this way of obedience leads us to a new freedom in Christ. Whereas following our disordely desires leads us not to freedom but slavery. May we all open ourselves more fully to obedience, and see in it the way of faith, hope and love.

Deacon Ian Hellyer

PS The most notable thing at the pond today was "oh look at all the newts."

Struggling with Prayer? Advice from the Pope.

In this general audience with the Holy Father, the Pope referred to the passage in Genesis where Jacob wrestles with God. You can find it in Genesis 32: 22-end. It is a passage full of mystery, yet so is the struggle of prayer. It is very easy to become discouraged or perplexed by apparent lack of progress in prayer, but the Pope's teaching might be of some help.
Deacon Ian

The Trials of Family LIfe

Sorry, no real blog this week. Following the birth of Rose the family has been tested by various bugs and medical problems.  Thank you to everyone who has sent us supportive messages and prayer.  I am sure we shall be on our feet before long.
Deacon Ian

The Ordinary's Visitation of the Southwest

Mgr Newton celebrated Mass assisted by the new deacons

On this fourth Sunday of Easter members of the Ordinariate gathered together in the South West for the Holy Mass celebrated by Mgr Newton, our Ordinary.  He travelled down to meet members of the Ordinariate, to encourage us and to spur us on.

During the homily, Father Keith reminded us that the shepherd of the Middle-East went ahead of the sheep, not least to make sure the next stage of the journey was safe for the flock.  In a sense he said that we the first members of the Ordinariate were walking ahead showing that it was safe. He believed that it was right as an Anglican bishop to have lead the way for others to follow, but we are all witnessing to the many Anglicans who are very unhappy with the Church of England. Many said it would not get off the ground, but we have shown by our courage that the Ordinariate is no figment of the imagination, but a new and prophetic sign for the whole church.

 
Following Mass we went to the hall for a brew and a piece of cake.  Mgr Newton addressed us all, reflecting on the journey we have been on in the last six months.  He encouraged us to rejoice in being in full communion with over a billion Catholics throughout the world and to take our place in the Catholic Church.  He referred to his own journey that in six weeks he had become a Catholic Layman, a Deacon, a Priest and a Monsignor Proto-Notary Apostolic ("whatever it is").  He said that he had not been made this because of something he himself had done, but for the sake of the whole Ordinariate.  He gained access to an audience with the Holy Father very quickly, something many curial cardinal had failed to acheive in years, because the Holy Father is keen for Catholics to take note of the Ordinariate and what it means.  He reminded us that we were also called to make a distinctive contribution to the Catholic Church bringing our Anglican heritage with us.  And he also reminded us that the vision of the pope was that the Ordinariate would be part of the New Evangelisation, that we need to be reaching out, bearing witness to Christ in our world today.  He said that Archbishop Nichols beleived that Anglicans had a different approach to mission in Britain compared to most Catholics and this was a very important contribution we could bring.

The day finished with Evening Prayer and Benediction in the Blessed Sacrament Chapel.  We were very grateful for Father Abbot's generous hospitality and use of the Abbey to gather all the members of the Ordinariate in the South West together in one place. Mgr Newton said he would come again, and we enjoyed meeting him. The Ordinariate groups will also meet together again for teaching and fellowship in the months ahead.
Deacon Ian

Thanks be to God

Please join Margaret and I in giving thanks to God for the safe delivery of Rose. Please pray that God will give Margaret and I the necessary grace to care and nurture her as she grows and matures.
Rose was 8lb5oz and is our ninth child.
Deacon Ian

Third Sunday of Easter

They recognized Him in the breaking of the bread.
At the Entrance of mass today we sang one of my favourite Easter hymns: "The day of Resurrection! Earth, tell it out abroad". I love singing this hymn of St John of Damascus and I remembered as we sang it my second son's baptism which opened with this hymn. Yet as I looked around it was clear that many did not know this one! Those that did sang gustily the rest seemed to stand silent. Looking to my mother-in-law (a cradle Catholic) I realised it wasn't in the usual Catholic repertoire. My wife usually says to me, "This is an Anglican one!" This is what we might call part of Anglican Patrimony, that which the Holy Father desires us, the Ordinariate, to bring back to enrich the Catholic Church. A hymn of St John of Damascus (c.750) cannot be said to belong to Anglicans of course, but the translation of this Greek hymn (Anastaseos hemera) into English was done by J.M.Neale, an Anglican Clergyman who did such a superb work in translating numerous hymns of Christian tradition, many of which can be found in The English Hymnal. The second verse is applicable to the gospel reading of the day (Emmaus):

A ray of light reaching down to the pond

Our hearts be pure from evil,

That we may see aright

The Lord in rays eternal

Of resurrection-light;

And, listening to his accents,

May hear so calm and plain

His own "All hail," and, hearing,

May raise the victor strain.

While I am far from being a wordsmith, I rejoice in the beauty of the poetry of these words conveying such sublime Resurrection faith.  The eyes of our hearts are frequently blocked from seeing the eternal rays of resurrection-light, which was the experience of the two disciples on the Emmaus road on Easter day, who could not see the Lord in their midst. Are we not just as blind? St John of Damascus in his hymn reminds us of the beatitude of our Lord: Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God, as we reflect on our own blindness. It is purity of heart that we all need in order to see more clearly. Let us all pray for that!

Pond

For those like my sons following the development of pondlife, the news at the pond is that a tadpole has been spotted with two small hind legs! Most of the tadpoles are starting to change body shape but are still moving by tail. Well things are visibly happening at last! 

God Bless
Ian

PS  Please remember my family in your prayers as we are expecting an addition to our family any time now - a ninth child.